Elros chose to be a man and Elrond chose to be an Elf. Thus, Elrond would live forever, but would eventually grow weary and depart to the Undying Lands, never to return. To the children of Elrond a choice was also appointed: to [eventually] pass with him from the circles of the world; or if they remained to become mortal and die in Middle-earth. For Elrond, therefore, all chances of the War of the Ring were fraught with sorrow.
Aragorn is a man, so he can't go to the Undying Lands, plus he has king stuff to do, so even if he was allowed to go there, he wouldn't be able to. Thus, because of the "choice" all Elrond's children must make, Arwen has to choose between going with her father to the Undying Lands and living there forever, but leaving behind the man she loves; or staying with Aragorn after her father departs, but becoming mortal.
So it isn't that the Ring is killing her, nor is it that loving Aragorn automatically entails dying. It is simply that staying in Middle-earth means she has to become mortal. Things get even more complicated by the fact that the Elves have maintained their power through the 3 Rings they possess. But if Sauron regains the One Ring, the 3 Rings are no longer safe to use; if the One Ring is destroyed, the 3 Rings will become just as useless as regular rings. So no matter what happens to the One Ring, the Elves have to leave Middle-earth.
This includes Elrond, of course. So Arwen is dying because she has chosen to remain in Middle-earth after her father departs. It is less clear why she is literally about to die - in the books, she isn't dying now, she has just decided that at some point in the future she will die. In the movies, she is in the process of becoming dead. The only way I can make sense of the events in the movies is that Arwen is choosing to die immediately to guilt trip her dad into reforging the Shards of Narsil so Aragorn can become king.
In the books, Elrond doesn't need to be coerced into reforging Narsil - there, unlike the movies, Elrond has always supported Aragorn's journey towards kingship, and Aragorn has always intended to become king.
Jackson changed Aragorn a bit- in the movies, Aragorn is "The Reluctant Hero", and has to be pushed and cajoled into doing what he was destined to do. Elrond is a bit annoyed by this, and at one point says something like "Aragorn turned away from that path long ago, he only wants to be a Ranger now". So in the books, Narsil is remade before the Fellowship departs from Rivendell, but in the movies, Narsil isn't reforged until the middle of the third film.
In the books, Elrond told Aragorn he couldn't marry Arwen until he was king, because Elrond didn't want Aragorn to become distracted from his main task of claiming the throne. In the movies, Arwen actively chooses to die because it will force her dad to reforge Narsil so Aragorn can become the king, and then Elrond finds Aragorn and says "Get off your ass and become the king or Arwen will die".
So really, deciding to die was Arwen's way of making sure her dad and her boyfriend did what they had to do. The line about "Arwen's fate is now tied to the fate of the Ring" makes more sense in this light. Arwen will stay in Middle-earth no matter what, and if Sauron gets the Ring, everyone in Middle-earth, including Arwen, will be boned. If the Ring is destroyed, she'll stay with Aragorn, and die at some unknown time in the future.
Then — here's the answer — Arwen then prayed to give her gift to Frodo to endure the poison from the Morgul Dagger. The books mention none of that whatsoever, period.
In the books however Arwen chooses mortality so she can marry Aragorn. As such, she will eventually die. This grieves the elves, as she's the fairest of their maidens and it's not the first time this happened in their history, previous cases having ended in tears.
As so often with the LOTR movies, the filmmakers corrupt and pervert the lore for the sake of making a movie that flows quick with lots of dramatic moments and dialogue. So there's no canon explanation, you'd have to ask the script writers for the movie what they were thinking if anything beyond "it sounded catchy". I've read the whole series many times over the last four decades.
It was my children's bedtime stories. That is why Aragorn said that she could not give that to him. He knew it would weaken her and prove fatal in time if he failed. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top.
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The reason Sam is not affected by the Ring in the same way as others, is because of his great love and loyalty towards Frodo. This is not a romantic attachment, but a noble and selfless love, which Frodo cannot always return, but which he admires and respects. The Hobbit introduced readers to Bilbo Baggins.
In the end, it is ultimately Sam who appears to be the true main character and hero because he is the most consistent in his heroism. In short, Sam is a hero. He is even my personal favorite. However, all other heroes were also real heroes, and they all were important. The main reason most people who view Sam as the real hero view him as such is due to Sam being, by far, the most relatable character.
Why is Arwen dying but not Legolas? Can you come back from the undying lands? Does Middle Earth have a heaven? What happens to humans when they die in Middle Earth? Where do elves go when they die? Do Orcs have an afterlife?
What happens to orcs after they die? Where do Orcs go when they die DND? Do Orcs go to the halls of Mandos? Do dwarves have souls LOTR? Do dwarves turn to stone when they die? Do dwarfs have the gift of man? Where do men go after they die in LOTR?
What happens to the souls of men in LOTR? This is especially so when she has a vision of the child they would have together if she stayed. When Arwen chose to stay in Middle Earth because of the hope she had for a brighter future, she also chose to be counted among the race of Man.
Arwen isn't necessarily dying because of the Ring , but now that she is mortal, she is dying through the slow decaying of time. Arwen also faces the same fate as all those in Middle Earth should the Ring Bearer fail his mission. So in that way, her fate is tied to the Ring. Elrond believed the world of Men would soon fall and that there was no hope, so he chose not to fight in their battle. It is only after Arwen makes her decision to become mortal that Elrond mended the blade that cut the Ring in The Reforging of Narsil.
This sword would allow Aragorn to command those that dwell in the mountains—the Army of the Dead—so that the Free Peoples of Middle Earth would have a fighting chance. If Arwen had not stayed, Elrond would not have reforged the blade, nor would he have confronted Aragorn and told him to gain command of the dead.
Elrond helped not for Man or even all of Middle Earth, but for Arwen since she would be doomed too if they should fail and Sauron should regain control.
Though Arwen doesn't get much screen time, she is perhaps the reason the war took a turn in favor of Mankind.
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