HTC clearly wants you to use the front facing camera too - it's been given a spec bump to 2. You simply slide your finger up and down the screen to jump between the two cameras as well as enabling the countdown timer if you so wish - it's not a strongly advertised feature, but when you find it, it's really impressive.
The interface for the camera isn't the easiest to use at times, simply thanks to the fact the buttons to hit are so small and there's a great deal of scrolling to alter the effects. There's no intelligent shot mode like that found on the Sony Xperia Z1 and LG G2 , but it doesn't matter in many situations. But if you want to fire the text mode which alters the contrast of the picture or get a little closer up to stuff using macro, you'll have to scoot through a few menu options.
It's also annoying that you can't use HDR high dynamic range, where multiple exposures are captured of the same photo and stitched together mode when shootings Zoes more on that in a separate section as this really improves the pictures no end. HDR is a much better option than it used to be on older HTC phones, as it can manage to process in no time at all now.
In fact, we wish it could be enabled by default rather than having to switch it on each time. So onto the good stuff: is the HTC One camera actually any good given the bold move made on the camera front? The simple answer is yes, photos taken in a variety of scenes look pretty darn nice. There's a lot of noise thanks to the lower pixel count at times, but the range of light levels you get to shoot in compared to other camera phones is excellent. We were surprised how trigger happy the flash was in auto mode given this ability.
It's a bit closer now the competition has caught up - the Galaxy S4 , LG G2 and iPhone 5S all excel in this area too, plus the Nokia Lumia is in a league of its own when it comes to cameraphone-ability. This is by far the most useful addition to a smartphone camera. You can return to a video and literally scroll through the images, select one and save it to your camera roll or share it. Instead of pulling a low-res screenshot, you can pull a full-res photo of the exact moment you want.
It's constantly recording and dumping video when in preview mode, and as soon as you hit record, it remembers the last few seconds of recording it just did and saves it with your video.
Other cool features abound. The camera uses continuous auto-focus for still images. And the HTC One has a dedicated imaging gyroscope, making it possible to have built-in optical image stabilization -- like in the Nokia Lumia Unlike digital stabilization, the lens itself moves as much as one degree in any direction to address phone shaking or motion.
The front-facing 2. Instead of disorganized thumbnails, Living Gallery organizes them into events if you don't feel like accessing them in tile view. Photos and videos from each event are assembled into a second video snippets with filters, music and slick cuts. Look at the shape of the lights.
Maybe as its focusing it get out of alignment, refocusing 'fixes' it? The 4MP looks much better in low light. But the overall image is still poor. It won't convince me why I should have this instead of double the megapixels on well lit situations.
I think many image problems like noise, reduced when downsize the photo. So, higher pixel density I think is better. From the examples given the noise is definately less with the HTC even where the iphone has been resampled. IMO 3MP for conventional or image is too small for nowdays. I am tired of people commenting that pixel count does not mean better image.
This is an old and outdated logic. We are in different times DXO Mark scores. Sensors today are allowing excellent images at high pixel density so stop arguing with outdated rules. Judge on image quality as you see it!
The Iphone 4S photos are better on color accuracy but that is the end of it. Other than the HTC's photos being too warm for my taste, it appears to be superior for sharpness, noise, light sensitivity. With that said, I am still amazed at the IPhone 4S photos For smaller sensors you need to pick A or B, but can't have both. You can downsize a high res image to get effectively "large pixels" multiple smaller pixels get added together , but you can't do the opposite.
Having more pixels affects the TOTAL amount of collected light in that each pixel has "some" area dedicated to electronics non-light gathering area , therefore reducing the area being utilized to collect the light.
So having 2x more pixels, IF all else remains the same, wastes 2x more surface area of the sensor. So the question then becomes: how much of each pixel is "wasted" on the electronics? And for the area that IS collecting light, how efficient is the sensor?
I really want this phone but for photos is just brutal. As the article mentioned once you crop to you are only left with a 3MP image. Apple decided it was smart for the iPhone 5 to have a camera sensor in a device? In that case the HTC sensor aspect ratio makes more sense. And speaking of sense! I cant bring myself to understand why Apple and others decided to move to a display ratio since most photographs, are either or and ergonomically the thumb finger has more reach in format when operating it with one hand.
Were these photos taken with a tripod? If so, these samples wont say much about the real world quality of these gadgets. In reality, most high megapixel count cameras result in a bland noisy mess when shooting hand held. Even with film "pixel" size matters. Silver salts in high sensitive film are bigger for a reason. Likewise higher resolution film contains finer grain but is less sensitive. To get decent Dynamic Range and Gamut you need to collect discrete samples of photons per area, it just the basis of image forming.
With blur you lose contrast and consequently sharpness. The HTC lens seems to be wider than the one on Apple. Correct me if I'm wrong. Secondly the HTC uses, due to its sensor, a default aspect ratio of vs the Apple's With the HTC you just got some more stuff in your images on the left and right. That's exactly how we deal with different aspect ratios in our dpreview studio tests.
Can anyone here imagine buying a "real" camera and then paying a "monthly" fee to use it? Wonder how long before we "believe" we "need" a camera that is also a pocket computer?
You don't pay any monthly fees and can do most things on it when you're connected to WiFi. I'd personally prefer to make a phone call with my phone though I love my Sigma DP2 for its sensor.
Everything else about it sucks but I put up with it because the sensor is perfect for my needs and expectations. Just download and rotate yourself. Lars, I don't think we're going to question your decision to rotate an image right side up. Ok, apologies everyone. Something really weird happened in our content management system.
The thumbnails were the right way up when I put this piece together on Friday and at some point during the weekend they were rotated. We are investigating, but the thumbnails are corrected now. HTC's solution is fine for photos straight out of the camera. Ultimately, I think I'd rather take the extra pixels and decide what to do with them myself. But you can downsample and then apply a bit of NR.
It appears to me that if there really is a 4 MP sensor in the HTC One, it caters shamelessly to people with the 'larger pixels are better' fallacy. It's still surprisingly prevalent even after proven wrong many times. Phil Askey founded a great site in Dpreview, but it seems that unfortunately one of his most enduring legacies is the unscientific belief in superiority of large pixels.
Smaller size of output images? Less battery drained when scaling down for web - because that's where most of mobile phone pictures end up? Less space is taken on the memory card and images are witten faster to it? NoKia might have a better camera on the phone, but I rather keep my iPhone. Nokia's operating system has been obsolete for years and And they are not selling as Many phones as they used to.
If you're going to get a nokia phone just because of the better camera, might as well just get a real camera instead. Nokia Lumia phones have a new operating system, Windows Phone 8, which is fresh, beautiful, and efficient.
I would seriously consider a new Nokia Lumia phone, if only it didn't run Windows Phone 8! I'd get one if it ran Android. I think Nokia has made a serious mistake in putting all their eggs into the Windows Phone basket. Too bad they don't also offer an Android version of their phones. Those versions would easily outsell the Windows versions. It doesn't make sense. Why compare the HTC to a two-year old iPhone 4s?
The iPhone 5 is 10 times better. That's a wonderful explanation, and we've all heard it a million times from people who claim that more pixels does not damage image quality, but unfortunately, you are contradicted by the evidence. Did you even read the article and look at the sample shots? On the other hand, it is a good tactic for you to stake out your turf and explain away, educating the rest of us, without any reference whatsoever to data or facts.
That way, you get to maintain your self-image as an expert. Confirmed--You did not read the article, or look at the sample photos. If you had, you would have seen that clearly a high-resolution image downsampled does NOT perform better than this camera in low light. Therefore, your authoritative-sounding statement--"it is, however, inferior otherwise because more pixels mean better NR "--is pure B.
Are you high? Typical ignorant fanboy, you must think giant purple spots make a better camera Because the iphone 5 camera is garbage, the lens was made with the worst material ever put into a camera and destroys the images, i would rather get an 4s, beside the point times? Talk about hyping it up. Also yabokkie what the hell kind of drug are you on? Just stop talking, you have proven your ignorance and ZERO knowledge when it comes to photography.
I understand that you are trying to launch this connect thing, and maybe spin it off, but annoying a photographers audience with putting connect into their feed may not be the best way to grow readership in your new venture. If I tell it to not show "connect", it eventually comes back, even with "make default".
I'm sure this is within the scope of the competence of amazon's programmers Other photographers like myself don't mind seeing new developments in phone cameras because they are another photographic tool. You are not the first attention seeking prostitute to come here and complain and neither the last, dont like what they are doing? Then why spend time on it? Go find another website for your dumb ass. There are spy pen cameras that you can run out with just as easily as a phone cam.
So does that also make the best camera there is? Also, not everybody's style is photo-journalistic. There are people who want to use real flash s. The low light shots from both phones are unimpressive. HTC are in trouble and I really can't see the mass market appeal at all. Full frame sensor low light shots? Sure - that's what I was expecting From a smart phone - yeah. That's a stupid question mate.
My point is that these images are not exceptional by any means, and this phone will not turn around HTC's fortunes. If you can't see the improvements from the 12 preview samples and the pyramid building night shot pics click and viewed full screen , then you're pretty dumb.
The sad thing is, I think the balance of design question really points to HTC having the correct decision. Most people would greatly benefit by their design choices in the new HTC One. Lower MP and really good IQ in low light conditions.
In bright conditions, you still end up with an photo you can print at 8X10 if you want to and in low-light, you end up with a photo you can print and share that is higher quality than the competition. The sad thing is, the consumer won't buy into this logic. They increased the MP but did not decrease the pixel size. I realized long ago as did many others that more megapixels was counterproductive in many situations. I got sharp prints at 8x10 from my 2 megapixel Kodak. What I do now with higher megapixel cameras, is shoot them at reduced resolution.
But these images seem to show that that is not as good a tactic as just having fewer, and better, megapixels on the sensor in the first place. Please, for me, 7 megapixels was more than enough for everything, and didn't unnecessarily clog up my hard drive.
I can't be the only one that feels this way. The Canon G series has always done this, used larger, lower MP count, more sensitive sensors with reasonably sized lenses in a bridge camera format. I noticed that images are compared at the same shutter speed instead of advertised ISOs, which is great. This is coincidental. Both camera phones were shot in Auto mode as they do give very little controls of exposure the iPhone even less than most Android phones.
I find that the HTC is better in every case. Better color, dynamic range. Just the way it captures light is more pleasing and dare I say, more cinematic. I think it would have been more appropriate to have compared the iPhone 5 rather than the 4S, however. The iPhone 5 has significantly better results than the 4S. Where did you get the idea that it contributes to lower costs? I've already stated at the bottom of this page that sensor costs has everything to do with size and practically nothing to do with pixel count.
Most people would imagine But that's not the case. It's only more expensive it it is a newer chip. Or larger chip. Yeah, it's unfortunate that DPR doesn't give you a way to ignore the comments of certain users. I find myself reading the comments sometimes and thinking wtf?! Yabokkie is top of my list of people to ignore.
It does however, improve low light performance and contrast. This is simply the nature of the bestie; more area in the pixel sensor itself equates to more photons for the sensor to sample, i. Except there is a loss when you divide it.
Imagine changing all million dollars to pennies, but having to count EACH penny. Each pixel has to count photons, but also has its own read noise. Depends on where you live. HTC is not exactly a popular brand where I live, but it has nothing to do with the quality of their phones; the brand just isn't that well known here. In any case, this is not a high school popularity contest, is it?
I think HTC make very good phones and their new One looks good. While I don't own neither camera, judging from the various online examples I'm pretty sure the HTC One would show no real advantage over the Lumia in low light shots with the latter scaled back to 4 MP. Of course the Lumia would still show better resolution at full resolution. Nokia is still the leader of phone camera technology. Was already 10 years ago and still is. As for the popularity contest: Nokia N and E series smartphones were extremely popular everywhere except the US just five years ago.
The iPhone 3GS was the first iPhone that sold anywhere near the numbers of bestselling Nokia smartphones globally. It always seems to me that photos from phones are never fantastic, and only look decent when down res'd to go on the interweb. It seems this kind of in-depth camera analysis of a phone is slightly tragic.
Anyone sufficiently interested in this level of technicality of a phone camera should really go and buy an actual camera. That's my point, I don't really know who this pointless pixel peeping of a phone camera is aimed at :- People who pixel peep like this are unlikely to care much as long as a photo us presentable on a phone screen or in a web browser, on account of their 1 at least actual camera.
Well, I guess I am the kind of person who this article is aimed at. I don't always have a camera on me, so the phone, while a distant second to a real camera, is better than nothing. Knowing that, what is wrong with finding out what phones make better cameras than others? I have to choose a phone, why not make it one that takes better pictures than the others?
Is this test with the updated firmware? Seems to work as expected. Whatever, I set my phone to take x images. Smartphone cameras just don't deserve to take high resolution photos. DPR, why not make an article comparing different camera formats reduced to MP resolution from their native resolution?
That would be interesting. That would be easy too if you were to use the images in the studio comparison tool. What's the point of comparing an Android phone camera to an iOS phone, no one is going to switch system based on a camera. Redo the test with the best selling Android phone as a reference and then it's a fair comparison, Galasy S3 vs HTC One that's what could be interesting, even if the One must be compared to the S4 as this are the phones that are going to battle in the stores It's not about "battle in the stores" - though thanks for pointing out indirectly why so few Android-using manufacturers actually make money - but comparing to the currently most popular camera phone, which remains the iPhone line.
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