A Transvestite and a Crossdresser are both members of the transgender community. Both are born with a desire to express a gender opposite from the one they came into this earth.
A transvestite is going to be more exotic: over the top - if you will. Their trans expression often includes a more sexual flair. A crossdresser is most often driven to be accurately represent a female persona that can also go to generic public venues and 'pass" as female.
A transsexual's desire is strongest - and will include plans or dreams to live full-time as female and completely change gender. A crossdresser does this representation on a part-time basis - maintaining some sort of comfortable balance between male and female. My husband watches shemale porn: Is he gay? Thus, in summation: A Transvestite and a Crossdresser are both members of the transgender community. A trans person can choose to dress in clothing that they feel is appropriate to their gender.
This isn't cross-dressing, and they are not transvestites: they are trans people wearing clothes. That's it. A person who is trans can be gay or straight. You know, because they are a person, and people have a sexual orientation. Members of the trans community have been included under the LGBTQ umbrella because much like every other member of the community their identity is not universally accepted.
I'm a straight woman, but if I were to decide to go to a drag show as a man, it's still just drag. The same goes for anyone else. For some drag performers, the freedom provided by drag can give them the confidence necessary to fully embrace their true gender identity.
But this is not the by and large rule. People who are performing in drag do not "wish they were women. RuPaul's show has attracted controversy for its use of the words "tranny" and "she-male" on their show. These words are often used by drag performers to mock or deride another performer's look. Lately, members of the trans community have asked that these more hateful terms be removed from the vernacular. Some people in the drag community agree while others, who feel that drag is about subversion and shock, see nothing wrong with using those words.
So, let's sum this sucker up: Not all trans people are drag queens, but some drag queens are trans people. It's not okay to use the words "tranny" or "she-male" to talk about another person's appearance unless you're a seasoned drag performer and gay person willing to stand up and make an argument about "taking back" the words. If you are a cis-gendered person , don't make assumptions and don't use language if even a part of you has concerns that you're using it without the full context.
For more of her work, check out her Tumblr. I hope this continues and grows. I really do. We need to support each other in all aspects of the issues we face: discrimination, laws that protect us from hate crimes, work issues, and destroying myths and stereotypes that mislead the public into mean behavior.
Many of you live in social oppressive section of your country. In Southern Califorina is is some what tolerant of the transgender community. This cause problems. A gay female impersonator gave me his view of the transvestite community.
He said that in the South. A I'm talking to people from all over the world , the culture is oppressive, therefore the community has to circle the wagons and "hunker down. Seriously, the transgender community has to be tight togeather and support each other. Hence, they become best of friends and help each other.
BUT, a corious thing happens. The community drifts apart. They form social groups and they distance themselves from each other. This is at the "file and rank" individuals. They tend to form lasting friendships.
But, at the activist levels, attitudes seem to be different. I talked to the members of my support group. They surprised me with information that there was a rift between executives of the different support groups in San Diego California.
I come along and get caught in the middle of this war. The major players in this melodrama have left the county. Those of us who left have to pick up the pieces and mend fences. We have formed the Rainbow Alliance.
I have participated in the ground level executive stearing group. We outlined the goals of what the community needed and direction to achieve it. I represented the Transgender community. At the beginning of the meeting I got feedback of the nature like, "Who are you and what are you doing here? At the end of the meeting I was relieved that I was invited to return for further meeting and represent the transgender commuinty.
There will be a summit in August where every group in the county to discuss how we are to deal with the media, setup a public access television program for the community, speakers bureau, out reach programs for teens and senior citzens. I will be the guest speaker for the transgendered people.
We feel that finally we will be heard and given a chance to express our views. I'm very pleased that we are getting together and become friends. Another comment was the denotation and connotation of the words transvestite and crossdresser. I submit the book, "Fractured English," by Richard Lederer. He contends that the English language is a dymamic, ever change form of communication. The recient issue of the Oxford dictionary introduce 53 new words mostly techinical and street slang Ain't is now in the dictionary.
The language of the community is ever changing. The terms used many years ago do not hold the same meaning today. So to those who quoated me definations, "What edtion are you quotating from?
I also contend that the scholary definations is in sync with common usage. I feel that the scholars lag behind the rapid changes of society let alone the transgender community. It's getting late and I have some more to say later. I will read your responses and comment on them later. Hugs Anita I hope I spelled everthing correctlly. Not surprising. There's a difference between friendship and self-interest. To understand politics you must understand the self-interests, not the friendships.
And the notion that the accepted meaning of "transvestite" may have changed in the last three years is laughably silly. I also. Such an arbitrary contention discredits your opinion. The scholarly definition is quite in sync with common usage.
Common miss-usage or idiosyncratic usage is something else altogether. I know it. I've been crossdresing for some twenty-odd years. It's not about fetishism or getting off.
It's about gender expression more than anything else. To paint it as otherwise marginalizes the identities of those who crossdress. As much as they'll believe you're a woman. If we can't accept eachother's differences in gender identity and expression, how can we expect anyone else to? Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Anita In highschool I was voted the most to be come an idiot, chimpanzee, or poor white trash.
Congratulations, Anita. Your response shows a willingness to learn. Something we could all benefit from. I apologize for my snide tone and only hope that I may have contributed some food for thought.
I agree. And if we don't talk to one another,listen to one another, and generally give each other a chance, it will take a lot longer to achieve any of our goals. We have to remember to treat these people as individuals, and not fall back on stereotypes, or we run the risk of creating even more problems. Cliche may be right here.
As a life-long southerner from a small town, I know there can be oppression, I've seen it first hand. But I've also seen a sense of family that is to be cherished and encouraged. Here in Asheville, NC, in the heart of Jesse Helms Land, our support group has been active for almost 13 years now, and many of our members are out and accepted in the larger community. There is still oppression and discrimination and bigotry, but nothing like many years ago. In , we had over marchers and maybe 4 dozen protesters, and we had the full support of the Chamber of Commerce.
Not bad for a small southern town. Not as surprising as you might think. There's a lot of ego out there. That's why it's up to all of us to work together. Regardless of where we are on the Gender path, we have at least something in common, and we're all in this together.
Those who are against us and against the rest of the LGBT community don't care what branch of the tree we're on, they're out to chop down the whole thing and dynamite the stump! Again Anita, I apologize for my tone in my original response and hope it won't keep you from learning and working for the future.
Jessica Britton. The one I heard, was that the crossdresser dresses for personal expression while the transvestite dresses for eroticism. There's a lot of words that have similar meanings. It's why thesauruses were invented. BTW, another difference I heard between the two, was that one was a label placed on us by the mainstream community and the other was self-adopted. When I approach a gay man I'm hetrosexual. I just wish I could understand the disunity between the two groups.
Hell, I wish I could understand the disunity prevalent in the entire human race. Hey, maybe you'll get to it here Crossdressers stopped the passage of the federal anti-homo discrimination. Lesbians flat out don't. Tri-Ess and. Sounds regional. Kinda like saying "Canadians live in igloos. Many don't. My apologies if I sound harsh, especially in a support group.
It's just that you've done two things I can't stand: declared absolutes to things which don't even have true consensus, and overgeneralized to the extreme. Glenn, sometimes known as Angie. Here's a hint for you Listen to US, not to the cisgendered idiots who insist upon trying to describe us.
Crossdresser was originated to describe a lifestyle without all the judgemental bullshit attached. When I approach a gay man I tell him. That part's easy We aren't gay Sofar, our PR campaigns have been so poorly staged that virtually nobody really understands what we are all about and, because of this, there is no reason that Gays should be any less transphobic than the rest of the world. Been in Canada all my life They were, at best, temporary structures put together by travelers in the far North for one or two day stays.
Building an Igloo is like pitching a tent. The idea that such a dwelling would be habitable for more than a very short period of time a few days at most is ludicrous. And this should surprise you, because????
Hi, Laura! It's nice to see you again. But a question, and apologies if it seems dumb: I had always had the impression you self-identify specifically as transgendered, not as a CD or TV, though obviously your lifestyle does include crossdressing.
Have I been mistaken? You live in the role full-time, which to me is an important distinction between you and some guy who dresses up every 2nd Tuesday night for a crossdresser club; but is that distinction as important to you? I have been watching this thread with some interest. And here is my two cents worth of my opinion of my life and then I will go back upstairs to lurk once again.
The only difference that I can point out that is kinda in your face type of stuff is I am a woman. I always have been. And all of the "misunderstandings" in my life have been because society applied "manly" expectations to me.
When really I was a "very, very, tiny and lost little girl in a big, big, world.
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